Thursday, June 9, 2011

What kind of cheap (or low-budget) camera is good for making music videos?

What kind of cheap (or low-budget) camera is good for making music videos?

Now I’m just looking for a decent well-priced low budget camera so I can shoot music videos. I know most are shot in film but these small Sony DVDCamcorders with the DV (Digital record) is just..ugh. I’m just looking for something that looks better than DV and somewhat DECENT to pull off a excellent-looking music record, or even close to professional. Anyone can help?

Answer by iAdvisor
Not sure what you mean by “just…ugh”. DV is the Industry Recording standard unless you go into the $ 25+ Range for honest tapeless direct feed studio gear. DV is the WORLDWIDE standard for recording. About 75% of Professional Series Record Cameras, whether they be Mini0DV, HDV, DVCAM or DVCPRO ALL record onto DV cassettes. Even most HD (720i, 720p, 1080i) content is filmed on DV. So unless you are looking to develop better than the industries top dogs, you may have to build you own camera..

You may be thinking but, of the $ 300-$ 700 MiniDV cams you see at your community Wal-Mart or Best Buy. These are not pro DV, they are Consumer Grade DV. But even the Majority of Professional series cameras use DV. The quality you are referring to comes NOT from the recording standard, (i.e. VHS, DVD, DV, miniDV) but instead from the quality of optics on the camera and its on board processors.

For Example, these two cameras are BOTH miniDV cams, but the difference is one is meant for filming family picnics and lame skateboarding videos, and the second is a RENOWNED top of the line Pro Series camera:

Camera 1 for Family Videos:

http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Cameras-Camcorders/Camcorders/Hi-Def-Camcorders/model.HDC-SD9_11002_7000000000000005702

Camera 2 for Pros:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/558723-REG/Panasonic_AGHVX200A_AG_HVX200A_P2HD_Camcorder.html

You can see that both are clearly miniDV cameras, but the difference in quality and price is astronomical.

This will give you an thought of the technology, capabilities and price ranges of the professional gear out there:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=sort&A=search&Q=&sortDrop=Price%3A+High+to+Low&bl=&atl=&pn=1&st=categoryNavigation&mnp=0.0&mxp=0.0&sv=1881&shs=&ac=&fi=all&pn=1&ci=1881&cmpsrch=&cltp=&clsgr=

And now that you are armed with the RIGHT information, you can do a small shopping of your own, and choose what works best for your needs AND BUDGET:

AFFORDABLE:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4323-6530_7-6509027-2.html?tag=ont.cam.home

PROFESSIONAL:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4323-6530_7-6509028.html?tag=txt

Pleased Hunting!!!

Answer by evilgenius4930
I despise it when public start talking BS as if you have no thought what you’re talking about, and they, the real “pro”, know better because they’ve really used $ 40,000 cameras (or so they try to imply). I’ve never used a $ 40,000 camera, but I have used a $ 4,000 XL2. And I can tell you right now that my $ 400 HV20 (well, I got it for $ 660, but you may maybe probably get one now for $ 400-$ 500) has comparable if not better picture quality than the XL2. Before everyone tries to flame me to hell, I never said anything about controls. The XL2 has, obviously, way more manual controls than the HV20, and the lens is a beast, albeit a stupid-heavy awkwardly balanced one. Nearly all music videos are shot 24p, whether it’s 24fps film or 24fps progressive record. The HV20 has 24p, and it shoots in 1080i HDV. To persons of you who are thinking that sounds like a contradiction, the 24p is telecined in the spill. So you can still edit like it’s 60i, or remove pulldown before control for the best results. Also, the HV20 is small. You can fit it in places that larger cameras such as the XL2 or DVX can’t fit easily in, and it is a lot simpler on the arms and shoulders as well. And for the price of an XL2 or DVX, you may maybe get 5 HV20s. But what excellent is it if I tell you? Just watch the classic this-is-why-I-got-my-HV20-record:

The HV20 isn’t all fun and games though. One of the largest things for me is the not-so-wide wide angle. I haven’t checked but from my eyes it seems like the equivalent of a 35mm lens on, well, 35mm film. So you will probably want to order a wide-angel adapter to go with your HV20. Again, the manual controls aren’t the greatest, but they’re really pretty excellent when you get to know how to use them, and it is possible to control aperture+shutter non-centrally, and gain as well to some extent. Also, this shouldn’t matter much if you’re one of persons public who care about what you’re making instead of what additional public reckon of you, but the HV20 is a pro-quality camera stuffed inside a consumer shell. So naturally you will get looks from additional public. If this bothers you, just get a huge a** lens hood (aka matte box) and stick it on your HV20. Don’t worry about spending too much money, I made mine out of black posterboard ;-) . It does help though if you have a wide-angle lens, as mine has a trend to fall off (no, I still haven’t bought a wide-angle lens for my HV20 yet). Also, consider investing in a $ 14 steadicam:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

Hope this helps!

Answer by Caleb B
http://www.squidoo.com/CamcordersUnder200

Answer by David S
Okay, first you have to reckon about this whole thought in a different manner. It’s not just the camera, especially if you are dealing with low budget. The largest mistakes I have seen is dwelling so much on the camera and forgetting about lighting, camera movement and stabilization. If you told me you had $ 600 whole in your wallet and you were looking at the best possible camcorder you may maybe buy for music videos, I would steer you in this direction.

$ 250 for the camcorder
$ 200 for lights
$ 150 for a shoulder stabilizer

What I would not do, is tell you to buy a $ 600 camcorder.

Lighting used to be an art, but there is this ongoing myth and misconception that it’s not vital because today’s camcorders are so “automatic” and they will take care of it for you. Lighting is key on low budget. I can’t say enough about it.

If you learn to light with even an inexpensive camcorder, you can do much more than you ever dreamed off, but public see it as a waste, and get so hung up on standard def, hi def, and the expense of the camera or if they do or don’t have a depth of field adapter and the list can go on

You are talking low budget so you have to look at this from a 360 degree view and not a 90 degree view. it’s all about baby steps at first

One of my first music videos was shot with a $ 550 camcorder but I spent all kinds of time lighting the stage, with cheap lights.

http://www.vimeo.com/413525

And in truth, the thought of a right “tale” music record requires attention. So you may have a fantastic camera but if your thought is lousy, it’s all a waste of time

So the question is this, or should be this:

How much do you have to spend?
Do you have a light kit?
Do you have any type of camera stabilization that is decent (tripod, shoulder support or additional).

The moral of the tale is, just becasue you spend a lot on a camcorder don’t expect your final product to look “pro”. You need to learn lighting, manual controls on any camcorder, and camera movement.

David

http://www.skyjamvideos.com

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Well, I’m 14. And I’m exceptionally interested in photography, photo control, record control.
I am beyond doubt not a expert at it, but, I did have Sony Vegas Pro (for record control on PC) and played around with it. Not an expert at it too, just knew the basics of the program. I haven’t got into photo control yet. But I like taking photos of the nature, urban architecture, and additional random stuff. I have an digital camera (samsung) that shoots 720p record, and is 14.7 megapixel. It is a fantastic camera, but not professional.

I just got a Macbook Pro a few months ago, and I want to do some control on it.
What are some programs that you guys recommend me to start off with? (mac and PC)
What are some excellent books or online sites I can learn the basics of photography and photo,record control?

And this is something that I wish to do something in my future. I’m not starting too late, am I?
Thanks! Tips or suggestions would be helpful~

Answer by Dog person
I LOVE using Adobe Premier Elements <3
but if you want to go a small more simpler than you can use Window Movie Maker :)

Answer by 徐国民
Window Movie Maker is a choice, but you can still use PhotoMovieTheater.

Answer by Baobei Fantasy
I am using Record Studio Express to edit videos on my Macbook Pro, and it’s much simpler than iMovie, even for a beginner, there will be no conundrum.
It’s free to try, and you can download it for evaluation from ZOT (there’s a huge sale today, which will save 50%, rush up!)

http://www.maczot.com/

It is a powerful record editor and converter owning both brilliant record control and converting features, which serves Mac users as a professional record cutter, trimmer, splitter, joiner and converter for both online and homemade record from HD and SD formats with plenty of strong and professional control effects

Answer by Joe Cody
Aunsoft Record Converter for Mac is a really helpful and self-explanatory assistant for converting nearly all well loved videos like TV shows (*.tivo, *.wtv, *dvr-ms, *.trp, *.tp, *.ts, etc), 1080p/1080i/720p HD, AVCHD videos (*.mod, *.tod, *.m2ts, *.evo, *.vro, *.m2t, *.mts, *.tp, etc) from DVs or camcorders (JVC, Panasonic, Cannon, Sony, etc), DVDs (*.vob), QuickTime videos (*.mov), YouTube videos (*.flv, *.f4v), common videos (*.avi, *.mxf, *.vp6, *.wmv, *.mkv, *.dts-hd, *.truehd, *.dts, *.ac3, etc.) and even the well loved Flip Record/Flip HD Record(*.mp4) to MOV, MKV, WMV, MP4, H.264/AVC, MPG, MPEG, AVI, MP3, AAC, AC3, M4R, etc with pristine quality and without A/V out of sync.

With this Mac Record Converter, you can delight in tons of videos on your iPad, iPod, iPhone 4, Android phones, Droid X, Droid 2, PS3, PSP, Xbox, Zune, Creative Zen, HTC Legend, cell phones and so on, or edit them in Adobe Premiere Pro, Final Cut Pro, FCE, Avid, iMovie, etc, or insert to PPT for presentation; or even upload to YouTube, websites for sharing.

http://www.aunsoft.com/record-converter-mac/

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